This month’s episode is a little different to usual as we weave in and out of a conversation we had with Dame Fiona Reynolds, former Director-General of the National Trust.

Her recent book, The Fight for Beauty, is a call to arms for all of us to pay more attention to matters of the earth and oceans. Fiona charts the power of the people who have fought for their right to beauty over hundreds of years of land disputes in the UK. Of course, farming and fishing communities feature heavily in this fight. We caught up with Fiona and she told us how she sees farming’s fit into the future of a Britain built on beauty. We are well aware that beauty seems a little airy-fairy and disconnected from the realities of running a farming business. But please do hear us out to the end…this is about bringing power back to the people.

As Fiona discusses beauty and rewilding, we hear from upland organic sheep farmer (with a passion for holistic thinking) Martin Peck, who asks his long-time neighbour and fellow upland sheep farmer, Rees Roberts, for some of his thoughts on these topics. It’s brilliant to hear the views of an upland sheep farmer, as this voice is so often missing from the rewilding debate. Rees Roberts is from Dyffryn Tanat (The Tanat Valley), Powys. He still practices ‘Hafod a Hendre’ also known in English as transhumance. ‘Hafod’ is a farm on higher pastures where a shepherd takes sheep in summer (‘haf’ is Welsh for summer) leaving ‘hendre’, the lowland settlement or farm where the sheep spend the winter.

We also hear from spiritual ecologist and artist behind The Milking Parlour, Nessie Reid for a completely different perspective on beauty and being.

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