In the first episode of our podcast we begin with an issue that has sparked much debate in recent months: What constitutes a sustainable diet? And in particular, what is the role of livestock in sustainable farming systems?

Our CEO Patrick Holden speaks to journalist and author George Monbiot about the future of farming in the UK, and the meat versus plant-based diet debate.

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This conversation was recorded at the Oxford Real Farming conference (2020) following a lively debate on the topic of sustainable and healthy diets.

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